Heat pump making a clicking noise

Tony · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 41

"Zyp" wrote in message @championbroadband.com...
> Tony wrote:
>> wrote in message
>> @64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
>>> I know this does not help. It can be any number of things. It can
>>> be as simple as a piece of sheetmetal that has bent out of shape to
>>> the the bad news of compressor rod cap starting to knock. Do
>>> monitor your system to see if this clicking turns into a knock.
>>
>> You mean that you guys don't know what is that hahaha
>> That is bin ladin sending mors code
>
> What did he say?????
>
>
>>>
>>> I do think an experienced tech would be able to pinpoint the cause
>>> for you. Obviously by posting, you may not know who they may be and
>>> since I do not know your general vicinity, I do not know if I can
>>> help you locate such a contractor. I do suggest asking neighbors and
>>> relatives, and double checking on Angie's list and Checkbook.com to
>>> see if the contractor is consistenet. I know of horror stories of
>>> relying on BBB or Chamber of Commerce, so I am sending you to
>>> consumer inspired sites. Of course, if you are in WNC, feel free to
>>> email me. Smile

>>>
>>> There is a reality, that I feel it would be an injustice not to point
>>> out: 15y is the average servicable life for this piece of equipment.
>>> You have gotten a great life out of it. I suggest being proactive
>>> and start saving for the future for when it is time to replace this
>>> piece of equipment.
>
> Tony - I can't understand a single utter you said? What the f***?
>
> --
> Zyp
>

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Dr. Hardcrab · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 88

">
>
> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
> @comcast.com...
>
> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc), and
> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium price, PLUS
> they
> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.

Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they were even 2
years ago....

Noon-Air · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 363

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>
> ">
>>
>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>> @comcast.com...
>>
>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc),
>> and
>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium price, PLUS
>> they
>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>
> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they were even 2
> years ago....

That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I have a
customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through 4 boards, and 2
ignitors.

Zyp · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 275

Galaxy wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:46:10 -0800, Joseph wrote:
>
>> "Zyp" wrote in message
>> @championbroadband.com...
>>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>> "Galaxy" wrote in message
>>>> @trueband.net...
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:53:36 -0800, becauseofjunk wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a reality, that I feel it would be an injustice not to
>>>>>> point out: 15y is the average servicable life for this piece of
>>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, of two tech opinions one was close to yours, the other said
>>>>> I can push 10 more years or more...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the advice, appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If its "Kenmore" and the age it is, I would be willing to bet that
>>>> its probably Goodman or some other bottom line, cheap
>>>> equipment.... Start saving a lot of money for replacement... not
>>>> knowing the capacity of the equipment, I can only guess that its
>>>> going to run 7 - 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS to replace it with a new
>>>> system....and thats providing that the ductwork was done right in
>>>> the first place... if not, then add another $2500 - $4k for new
>>>> correctly sized ductwork.
>>>
>>> So Noonie;
>>>
>>> are you saying RHEEM / RHUDD isn't bottom feeder equipment?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zyp
>>
>>
>> Not Noonie, but are you saying you don't feel Rheem or
>> "Ruud" are bottom of the barrel? In my experience Rheem has been a
>> very reliable brand (have seen a lot of Ruud branded equip).
>>
>
> So, where can I find reviews of HVAC systems? I have a halt-ton, I am
> told for a 2000 sqft two-story house.

Ok - what's a "HALT - TON?"

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Stormin Mormon · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 284

It's what comes after "Two Waanna".

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"Zyp" wrote in message @championbroadband.com...

>
> So, where can I find reviews of HVAC systems? I have a halt-ton, I am
> told for a 2000 sqft two-story house.

Ok - what's a "HALT - TON?"

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Zyp

Galaxy · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:42:59 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:

> It's what comes after "Two Waanna".
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
>
> "Zyp" wrote in message
> @championbroadband.com...
>
>
>> So, where can I find reviews of HVAC systems? I have a halt-ton, I am
>> told for a 2000 sqft two-story house.
>
> Ok - what's a "HALT - TON?"

Two very professional answers. You can tell these guys know their stuff.
(not)

Noon-Air · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 363

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message %Luj.8134$_T3.5902@trnddc07...
>
> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
> @comcast.com...
>>
>> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
>> $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>>>
>>> ">
>>>>
>>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>>> @comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>>>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc),
>>>> and
>>>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium price, PLUS
>>>> they
>>>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>>>
>>> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they were even
>>> 2 years ago....
>>
>> That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I have a
>> customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through 4 boards, and
>> 2 ignitors.
>
> On a heat pump??!!
>
> ;-]
>
> I don't know anything about their gas furnaces. I know 95% of all of the
> oil furnaces we put in are Armstrong...

Actually it is a gas furnace... the other Armstrong stuff that I have run
across, wasn't all that great either... usually hacked in by the lowest
bidder. Your milage may vary.

.p.jm · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 527

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:25:28 -0600, Galaxy
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:42:59 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
>> It's what comes after "Two Waanna".
>>
>> --
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>>
>>
>> "Zyp" wrote in message
>> @championbroadband.com...
>>
>>
>>> So, where can I find reviews of HVAC systems? I have a halt-ton, I am
>>> told for a 2000 sqft two-story house.
>>
>> Ok - what's a "HALT - TON?"

That's the warning you give when the fat woman ahead of you
pulls up short.

>
>Two very professional answers. You can tell these guys know their stuff.
>(not)

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Dr. Hardcrab · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 88

"Noon-Air" wrote in message @comcast.com...
>
> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
> $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>>
>> ">
>>>
>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>> @comcast.com...
>>>
>>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc),
>>> and
>>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium price, PLUS
>>> they
>>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>>
>> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they were even
>> 2 years ago....
>
> That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I have a
> customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through 4 boards, and
> 2 ignitors.

On a heat pump??!!

;-]

I don't know anything about their gas furnaces. I know 95% of all of the oil
furnaces we put in are Armstrong...

Zyp · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 275

Noon-Air wrote:
> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
> %Luj.8134$_T3.5902@trnddc07...
>>
>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>> @comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
>>> $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>>>>
>>>> ">
>>>>>
>>>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>>>> @comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>>>>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong,
>>>>> etc), and
>>>>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium
>>>>> price, PLUS they
>>>>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they
>>>> were even 2 years ago....
>>>
>>> That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I
>>> have a customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through
>>> 4 boards, and 2 ignitors.
>>
>> On a heat pump??!!
>>
>> ;-]
>>
>> I don't know anything about their gas furnaces. I know 95% of all of
>> the oil furnaces we put in are Armstrong...
>
> Actually it is a gas furnace... the other Armstrong stuff that I have
> run across, wasn't all that great either... usually hacked in by the
> lowest bidder. Your milage may vary.

You have to admit Steve;

It's that "hacking" that give us more service work. The correct stuff seems
to have few problems. Go figure.

--
Zyp

Noon-Air · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 363

"Zyp" wrote in message @championbroadband.com...
> Noon-Air wrote:
>> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
>> %Luj.8134$_T3.5902@trnddc07...
>>>
>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>> @comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
>>>> $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>>>>>
>>>>> ">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>>>>> @comcast.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>>>>>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong,
>>>>>> etc), and
>>>>>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium
>>>>>> price, PLUS they
>>>>>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they
>>>>> were even 2 years ago....
>>>>
>>>> That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I
>>>> have a customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through
>>>> 4 boards, and 2 ignitors.
>>>
>>> On a heat pump??!!
>>>
>>> ;-]
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about their gas furnaces. I know 95% of all of
>>> the oil furnaces we put in are Armstrong...
>>
>> Actually it is a gas furnace... the other Armstrong stuff that I have
>> run across, wasn't all that great either... usually hacked in by the
>> lowest bidder. Your milage may vary.
>
> You have to admit Steve;
>
> It's that "hacking" that give us more service work. The correct stuff
> seems to have few problems. Go figure.

Very true... and its not cheap to turn chicken sh*it into chicken salad

Tekkie® · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 173

Zyp posted for all of us...

> Galaxy wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:46:10 -0800, Joseph wrote:
> >
> >> "Zyp" wrote in message
> >> @championbroadband.com...
> >>> Noon-Air wrote:
> >>>> "Galaxy" wrote in message
> >>>> @trueband.net...
> >>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:53:36 -0800, becauseofjunk wrote:
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There is a reality, that I feel it would be an injustice not to
> >>>>>> point out: 15y is the average servicable life for this piece of
> >>>>>> equipment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, of two tech opinions one was close to yours, the other said
> >>>>> I can push 10 more years or more...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for the advice, appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> If its "Kenmore" and the age it is, I would be willing to bet that
> >>>> its probably Goodman or some other bottom line, cheap
> >>>> equipment.... Start saving a lot of money for replacement... not
> >>>> knowing the capacity of the equipment, I can only guess that its
> >>>> going to run 7 - 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS to replace it with a new
> >>>> system....and thats providing that the ductwork was done right in
> >>>> the first place... if not, then add another $2500 - $4k for new
> >>>> correctly sized ductwork.
> >>>
> >>> So Noonie;
> >>>
> >>> are you saying RHEEM / RHUDD isn't bottom feeder equipment?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Zyp
> >>
> >>
> >> Not Noonie, but are you saying you don't feel Rheem or
> >> "Ruud" are bottom of the barrel? In my experience Rheem has been a
> >> very reliable brand (have seen a lot of Ruud branded equip).
> >>
> >
> > So, where can I find reviews of HVAC systems? I have a halt-ton, I am
> > told for a 2000 sqft two-story house.
>
> Ok - what's a "HALT - TON?"
>
>
That is when your ton unit comes to a grinding halt.
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Dr. Hardcrab · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 88

"Noon-Air" wrote in message @comcast.com...
>
> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
> %Luj.8134$_T3.5902@trnddc07...
>>
>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>> @comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
>>> $N95.3138@trnddc03...
>>>>
>>>> ">
>>>>>
>>>>> "Noon-Air" wrote in message
>>>>> @comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Its just my experience that Sears (Kenmore) uses
>>>>> the cheapest of the cheap(Goodman, Janitrol, Luxaire, Armstrong, etc),
>>>>> and
>>>>> the lowest bidder to do the work, yet they charge a premium price,
>>>>> PLUS they
>>>>> charge 24.9% interest on their credit cards.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, Armstrong has gotten a lot better. Nothing what they were
>>>> even 2 years ago....
>>>
>>> That would be good if the new stuff is what is breaking down. I have a
>>> customer with one that in the last 5 years has gone through 4 boards,
>>> and 2 ignitors.
>>
>> On a heat pump??!!
>>
>> ;-]
>>
>> I don't know anything about their gas furnaces. I know 95% of all of the
>> oil furnaces we put in are Armstrong...
>
> Actually it is a gas furnace... the other Armstrong stuff that I have run
> across, wasn't all that great either... usually hacked in by the lowest
> bidder. Your milage may vary.

Yeah, oil is a different animal. Armstrong (oil) furnaces are pretty tough.
Never have problems with them. Their other stuff is just so-so. I like
Carrier heat pumps and A/Cs, but would install one of their oil furnaces.
Trane (American Standard) oil furnaces are made by Thermopride and are
basically built like a tank....