On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:14:56 -0500, "HVACGod"
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:44:31 GMT, "Dr. Hardcrab"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> I make ok money now, I made 60k last year. Looking to make at least
>>>> 90k this year.
>>>
>>>uh-huh....
>>
>> Oh it's very possible to make 90k this year considering our spiff
>> program.
>
>Must be Service Experts or One Hour - more probably One Hour. Really makes
>no difference they were both founded and operated by Jim Abrams, Ron Smith
>[of Service America] and Terry Nichols. Of course there are more individuals
>involved but those are the key players, so in the end it's irrelevant One
>Hour will eventually go the way of either SE or SA - Experts was taken
>publlic and sold to Lennox Industries very shortly there after, Service
>America was sold to the guy that developed RotoRooter and then liquidated.
>If it is One Hour, have you noted how they are buying back their profitable
>franchises? Ya know why they are? The SEC requires a corporate net worth
>before the company can be offered publicly - ya know what happens after that
>takes place? Buy out - what happens after buy out is anyone's guess.
>Liquidation - new owners in the form of some company operated like it was
>founded in the USSR - much in the fashion of Lennox Industries.
>
>These franchises are operated, founded and developed by venture capitalist -
>most know little or nothing about the trades they are franchising - the
>smart ones will at least employee people that do. Like in the above example
>Smith and arguably Nichols - they load them and their key people up with
>promises of inflated stock values and a pretty hefty salary to keep everyone
>pulling in the same general direction at least until a public offering has
>been established.
>
>They over compensate their technicians, who are actually little more than
>lead developers in most cases and out right salesmen in others by over
>charging the established customer bases of the existing companies that buy
>into the franchise - in the process they not only alienate an otherwise
>established and loyal customer base but they also inaccurately reflect the
>technicians true market value based on his actual skills which in turn, in
>many cases leaves the technician not only poorly skilled, learning little in
>the way of the craft while in thier employee but also making the technician
>almost unemployable to another orginization outside of their own. Believe me
>whan I tell you that NO servcie originization operates the way these people
>do - nor would the market support it for any length of time.
>
>I won't even go into the discussion of ethics relevant to a technician being
>compensated in anyway by means of a commission or as you refer to it, a
>"spiff" program. I fully support NATE, HVACExcellence and RSES - and for
>that matter any orginization that helps to elevate the skill level and
>education of anyone involved in this industry. Unfortunately however, one
>has nothing to do with the other when any of the existing HVAC trade
>franchising orginizations are a part of the equation - all bets are off.
>
>Best of luck to you, irrespective of who you are involved with, and I
>sincerely hope the scenario I painted to be an inaccurate one - history
>however, dictates otherwise.
>

I used to work for One Hour. I quit because they paid commission only
and most of the techs were hacks or salesman. I care about the job I
do and give it to the customer straight. The company I work for now
has nothing to do with Service Experts or One Hour. They pay an hourly
wage plus overtime plus commission on sales of a new system only,
nothing else. Incidentally, pretty much everything you said about the
One Hour franchise is right on the money.

Archived from group: alt>hvac